Twoprov: Suggestions on forms, any advice

#1
I am looking for any advice in regards to performing a 2 person show, ideally 2 30 minute sets. I am performing with someone I know well and have worked with for the past year in another troupe. We haven't decided on any forms yet so I thought I would throw this out and see if anyone had any 'best practices' they could recommend for possible forms to do or anything else that comes to mind from experience.

Thanks in advance,

Patrick
 
#2
Any form can be adapted to just two people if you think hard enough.

It depends on what kind of stuff the two of you like about improv. If you like really slow character work, then maybe a monoscene would work well for you. If you love high-energy action, then a quickly-paced montage might work. Ask yourselves what you really dig about improv together and go from there.
 

darcy

Everything is Art!
#3
Here are some previous posts that might be useful:

"So two people face eachother and place word association...at the same time. They each count down from 3 and on the '0' they instead say a word. The goal is to be able to listen to what they other person said and try your best to find what they may say next. They will be doing the same, so you may find a word that is 'in between' both words. For example, if I said forehead and Frank said jaw, we might both decide to say nose.

It's a really fun game for getting out of your head and into the zone."

"We did two, what start out as, separate stories. They actually end up being very similar to each other, so similar that we were able to switch back and forth between characters and the audience was able to follow us.

A good example of one rehearsal we did was the suggestion of sweater. One scene was about the husband getting ready for his business trip. I had starting that scene by looking at my self in the mirror (and adjusting my sweater), the story would later reveal that the wife (my show partner) did not trust me to go away as I was going with my boss who was a babe, etc.
The second scene was about an old grandmpa (my partner). I was the grandchild who was there to live with her as I did not trust that she was able to live on her own. Her memory was going. That scene started out with my scene partner knitting a sweater.

We soon discovered that while we started with a sweater, we found more and more connections as time went on. Both stories were about security, faith, and trust. Sweaters make you feel safe.

I like suggestions, but they should never be seen as a limit or a guide, but a gift."

"I've recently started doing duo work and the two of us are lucky enough to have one of the best coaches on the west coast (davemorrisisa.com). Because of busy timetables around school, work and other improv related happenings (the two of us are in other groups as well) we are only able to rehearse two times a week for about 1.5 hours each practice. I'm not positive of the theory behind our teaching style, but it seems to be working well and I would like to share my thoughts as this is a pretty new experience for me.

- figure out what the needs and goals of your group is. Is there an event or format you are working towards? What forms, games, warm-ups and other such things can you see being a help to getting to your goal.

- Make sure that you are all able to really personally connect. Aside from a physical/group mind exercises, we generally do things that help us "check in" with one another. We just stare into each others eyes, examine our body movements and the way we are interacting with each other. We make "I" statements and once we think we've checked in with the other person, we start to make "I" statements that the other person might also say. It's not a dead set warm up, and it is fun to play around with.

- Don't spend all of your time rehearsing and take the last 10 or 15 minutes you've got and talk about what you just did. How did it make you feel? What would you like to do more or less of? Just talk shop and throw around awesome shit that you know."
 

Mr. Stampede

www.jillbernard.com
#4
What are the things at which you are individually strong and how can you combine them?

The main difference between a two person set and any other size group is OH! YOU HAVE TO IMPROVISE 100% OF THE TIME. There is no backline time, even if you have one person start alone there's much more permanently active involvement. So get ready.

A fun practice form is a version of Postcards, where you each have a chair on the far corners of the stage. We hear one person narrate a letter to the other, then see the scene that's the reality of what they were writing, and then we hear the letter back, see the other reality, etc. There's all kinds of ways to adapt that.

My favorite two-person warm up comes from The Physical Comedy Handbook by Davis Rider Robinson. It's called "Ping Pong." It starts with sounds and motion only, no words. One person "throws" some sort of action or sound and action to the other. #1 they take it in #2 they react by throwing something back.
 
#5
Thanks to Mike, Darcy & Jill for responding, your suggestions were all well received.

I have done 2 full shows at this point with one other scene partner and I have learned a lot. There is nothing quite like walking on a tight rope w/out a net, and that is what it was like.
The biggest understanding I have gained from this thread's responses & the act of performing was the importance of knowing what you want to accomplish and then how you are going to get there. Strict observation and honest evaluation is necessary to really weigh one's strengths & weaknesses. I can't say I have done this fully or well, but I know it is necessary to get better.
I plan to continue doing 2prov's so if anyone has any insight, please share & I will update w/anything I gain from performing.

Thanks again,
Patrick
 

Mr. Stampede

www.jillbernard.com
#6
You're very right! If you're in a larger group, sometimes you're there because "we all want to work on Harold" or "we all signed up for Level 1 last May." But if you're in a duo, it's very personal about just the two of you.
 

ChrisCamp

A regular guy!
#7
I'm quoting TJ & Dave secondhandidly from Drew Tarvin who recently recorded notes from a Q&A session at the Magnet.

How would you describe your form?
T: ideally if we're doing well, it'll be the first two and we never leave. Additional characters come from who is needed to fill out that world (scene painting).
D: in some ways we're just along for the ride. We're just following on what seems like is appropriate or necessary.

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This is kind of an anti-answer to a specific question but what's cool about 2 person shows is that you don't have to necessarily think about doing a specific form. If it's fun up top then you won't have to edit whatsoever and why would you need to if it's fun. We shouldn't edit or add characters for the sake of playing to a "form" but rather to serve the piece and because the "world" needs it.

Focus on building a group mind with each other. Work on soft edits (i.e. changing your demeanor or position on stage edits the scene rather than a sweep), making eye contact, creating a world with a rich environment/stakes and characters, etc. And like others have echo'ed concentrate on your strengths and weaknesses.
 

darcy

Everything is Art!
#8
Check out Scratch or Crumbs. Both groups are from Canada and are easily two of the best groups I have ever seen. They are both duos and really play well with eachother.
 
#9
Thanks to Mike, Darcy & Jill for responding, your suggestions were all well received.

I have done 2 full shows at this point with one other scene partner and I have learned a lot. There is nothing quite like walking on a tight rope w/out a net, and that is what it was like.
The biggest understanding I have gained from this thread's responses & the act of performing was the importance of knowing what you want to accomplish and then how you are going to get there. Strict observation and honest evaluation is necessary to really weigh one's strengths & weaknesses. I can't say I have done this fully or well, but I know it is necessary to get better.
I plan to continue doing 2prov's so if anyone has any insight, please share & I will update w/anything I gain from performing.

Thanks again,
Patrick
i just recently started an improv duo myself with a good friend of mine. We're politically themed which kind of set the form.... our form is a modified version of Harold, mixed slightly with an Armando. The strangest part about doing a Two-prov/duo is editing the scene. There is no one to come in and edit, its all done from the scene...once you get passed that, its really no different than the rest of the improv you're used to doing, except there is no sideline/backline for you.
 
#11
To update I have now done 3 2provs with a highlight for the third. I was invited to perform along side Gavin Hawk who performs each month with Ricky Wayne. Both are talented and both were instrumental in my education out in the sticks of west central Florida. Ricky taught long form out of his garage and the theater in st.pete. Gavin taught a 101 course to me this year as well.
The best part for me is I saw these guys perform the first long form live set I had ever seen only one year and 12 performance dates before I would be sitting in as a guest improviser.
The second best part would have been the thirty minute opening scene which took place almost entirely in a smart car. My truest monoscene yet.
 
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