Same place, new address

What should I do?

  • Keep both addresses, and keep improvisation.ws the primary address

    Votes: 8 47.1%

  • Keep both addresses, and make improvresourcecenter.com the primary address

    Votes: 2 11.8%

  • As soon as you get improvisation.ws working, dump improvresourcecenter.com

    Votes: 3 17.6%

  • Let improvisation.ws expire and don't renew

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • I'm really confused

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Total voters
    17
mullaney

mullaney

IRC Administrator
Staff member
#1
#1
What do you think of the new address everyone? It's kinda long. I would have preferred improvresource.com, but that was taken, bought literally days before I bought improvisation.ws.

I believe I have the name improvisation.ws reserved until January. I will likely make improvresourcecenter.com the primary address of the site before then, but I wonder what you think of that.

So it's time for a poll!
 
Choo Choo Andee

Choo Choo Andee

Hip Hop Honky
#2
#2
----It shouldn't matter what the primary address is, should it? I mean I have a website with more than one domain name just for promotion purposes, but they all go to the same address and everything is groovy.......I say keep both, hell get 5 more.


Keep both addresses, and keep improvisation.ws the primary address
Keep both addresses, and make improvresourcecenter.com the primary address
 
mullaney

mullaney

IRC Administrator
Staff member
#3
#3
I think for consistent promotion, I would want to make one the "primary", plus for things like email, I would want only one. Multiple variations confuse people.
 
Choo Choo Andee

Choo Choo Andee

Hip Hop Honky
#4
#4
ahh ok, I was a little confused, I thought you meant something technical by keeping it as your "primary address"....I thought your webhost was telling you something wacky.....

I like improvisation.ws better......
 
mullaney

mullaney

IRC Administrator
Staff member
#5
#5
I do too, it's shorter, but I'm starting to think I may never be able to get the improvisation.ws name to work for 100% of users.
 
benorbeen

benorbeen

intelligentlemaniac
#6
#6
If your number 1 poster can't post because of the problem [Gondorchin: THAT'S A DAMN GOOD IDEA!!!], then that's a problem.

I vote "Keep both addresses, and make improvresourcecenter.com the primary address." That's the site's name, it's mostly accessed by me via bookmark so I'm not typing ... fingers get trained eventually that it's nothing to type it out ... I like improvisation.ws, but if you can't have it for all, go with something that you <i>can</i> have for all.

I would think it ideal, though, that you keep improvisation.ws until it expires, maybe another term?, but with a simple Redirect page that explains the name change. Google would probably pick up on the text in it even if, say, I couldn't log onto the Redirect page even, and that would reveal info. about the name change if someone was baffled. Links to your site would get the Redirect page. It might show up in their Google Cache as well.

Some thoughts.

You may also want to adjust your logo graphic to reflect the domain change, if you keep improvisation.ws and have it as a simple secondary address (no notable redirect or explanation page). (Duh, Ben.)
 
DanTelfer

DanTelfer

Tentacled Monstrosity
#10
#10
I hate moving in all forms. I am not a collector of information, and when my friends move I lose numbers and addresses for months. This is not as big of a deal, though. I'll get used to whatever you do. Just bear in mind there are a lot of people who are on IRC sabbatical who will come back looking for it going...."Huh?"
 
az3456

az3456

Professional Elephant
#11
#11
For xballonline.com (which is the primary address of my website), I also own xball.org, xball.net, x-ball.org, x-ball.net, and they all point towards the main address. We originally grabbed xballonline.com because xball.net and xball.com were taken. xball.com is still taken by a cyber-squatter, but xball.net became available a few months ago after the XFL (which originally owned it) disappeared completely.

I would LOVE to use xball.net as the primary address. But at this point, we've spent so much effort promoting the site as xballonline.com, and in fact a good portion of the content revolves around the site name. So we're just going to keep it at xballonline.com, and have xball.net as a pointer.

My point being, you've spent effort promoting improvisation.ws, I say you keep that as the primary address, and use the other as the pointer. It's also catchier.

That being said, I think you should accommodate Ben as much as possible ;)
 
Choo Choo Andee

Choo Choo Andee

Hip Hop Honky
#13
#13
Originally posted by DanTelfer
I hate moving in all forms. I am not a collector of information, and when my friends move I lose numbers and addresses for months. This is not as big of a deal, though. I'll get used to whatever you do. Just bear in mind there are a lot of people who are on IRC sabbatical who will come back looking for it going...."Huh?"
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That shouldn't be a problem if he's just going to stick to one name, they can make it so when people go to improvisation.ws it will just automatically redirect them to the new website.....and even if he puts both names down for the same site, there won't be a problem with some people going to the "old" site and some going to the "new" one because both domain names will be going to the same ip address, so there shouldn't be any problems.........I say we fight the whole improvisation.ws problem, though.

When you got your new webhosting company, did you go to register.com(or whoever you got your domain name from) and change the name servers with the new name servers from your new web hosting company? Currently the name servers listed for improvisation.ws are

ns16.f5hosting.com .... 66.250.47.161
ns17.f5hosting.com .... 66.250.47.162

When I did a tracert on the name servers, the IPS that came back were

ns16.f5hosting.com......139.81.132.233
ns17.f5hosting.com ......139.81.132.234


double check with your new hosting company and find out what the the correct name servers/IPs are supposed to be....and make sure your domain registration company has that correct info for the domain name improvisation.ws.......If you never changed it over, or it got changed over with the wrong name servers/ip addresses then there's a good chance that's the problem.

It also still might be the individual ISP's.....first a bunch of random isps had problems, then pretty much everyone was fine.......then Road Runner didn't work for the longest time and now it does......It seems like these ISP's might be lazy and they are using old cached DNS.
 
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benorbeen

benorbeen

intelligentlemaniac
#14
#14
Actually, Choo Choo, I think that's the problem. When I load the site from my home computer (I think this is Telfer's problem too), we get a Cannot find server page for improvisation.ws. We "wouldn't know" to go to a new URL if we were less present on these boards, didn' t have access at work, or weren't able to log on via some URL cloaker like Anonymizer.
 
spacedani

spacedani

whipping churl
#16
#16
How will changing the address affect the links to other improvisation.ws... pages that are posted throughout the boards on different threads and journals?
 
mullaney

mullaney

IRC Administrator
Staff member
#17
#17
Thanks Choo Choo, that might be the problem. I've sent in various support requests. We'll see if that's the problem.
 
benorbeen

benorbeen

intelligentlemaniac
#18
#18
Originally posted by spacedani
How will changing the address affect the links to other improvisation.ws... pages that are posted throughout the boards on different threads and journals?
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Yea! That's what I was coming to post. There is a history of crosslinking internally to thing with the improvisation.ws address as a root. My first discovery of a problem was when I clicked on spacedani's link for Office Politics in the Plug a Journal section; I got Cannot find server. ...
 
mullaney

mullaney

IRC Administrator
Staff member
#20
#20
Originally posted by spacedani
How will changing the address affect the links to other improvisation.ws... pages that are posted throughout the boards on different threads and journals?
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For now, there is no problem, both addresses will hopefully work flawlessly in the near future. It's just a matter if I will renew improvisation.ws when it comes up in January. Maybe I will if I can find a way to transfer to a new registrar.

register.com SUCKS!
 
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