Practice Groups FAQ

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Practice Groups FAQ

v.1 Brian Berrebbi

1. Why are you writing a practice group FAQ?

Short answer: because i get asked these questions a lot, and because i love improv.

So you wanna start a practice group, or learn how to go about starting one, or have questions about being in one. That's what i'm here for. A lot of groups i coach have these questions, things like: where can i find good cheap spaces? what's the average price a coach charges? who should i take class with? who do we do if we want to perform? what do we do about money? what do we do if we want to close off the group? and so on.

I've been involved in every angle of practice group: starting a practice group, organizing it, re-organizing it, performing with the group, and coaching a number of them, and my intent here is to give you some of the benefit of my experience.


2. Why should I start or join a practice group?

Four of the original six members of Monkeydick started practicing together in Level 1, with the other two with us by Level 3. We practiced every week and still do.

As i say when coaching: We are trying to write, direct, and act all at once. People go to college just to learn how to do one of these, and you expect to learn it by doing a three-hour a week class? Plus in most classes you only get to do around two scenes. How are you going to get great doing that little improv.

Being in a practice group means you get to work more, get more experience, work with a smaller group, get the perspective from other teachers, do more scenes, and overall get better sooner. There is no reason NOT to be in a practice group. All the students i know who i consider good and who got on teams are ones who took improv seriously and threw themselves into it, sometimes practicing three times week.

In my opinion being in a practice group is not only neccessary to hasten your progress as an improviser, but something you should want to do. It's more time to improvise! If you enjoy doing this then this is a great opportunity and fun.

3. How do i start or join a practice group?

The easiest way to start early, when you're in Level 1. This isn't to say you can't start one later, but most of the people by Level 3 will probably be in committed practice groups by then.

If you're in class its pretty easy. At the end of class, simply say "Hey everyone, I'm going to start a practice group. Anyone who wants to come is welcome. If you're interested come over here and talk to me." Once you see who's interested, i suggest step picking a night. This will be immensely difficult. Everyone will have different commitments. I suggest using a simply "raise your hands" approach. Say "Alright, whoevers available Monday night raise your hands." Count how many hands are raised. Now do Tuesday night, Wednesday night, and the rest of the week nights, then the weekend. Some people might complain or say they'll try. Don't worry about them. Whatever night or weekend day you can get the most people, do it.

4. But i don't like everyone in my class. Shouldn't i just invite who i like?

If you're starting out (Level 1, 2, 3a, 3b) and this is your first practice group i reccomend strongly against this. Though its an appealing idea, more often than not you'll have a lot of scheduling problems or sit around waiting to get the right people and never actually start the practice group. I see this happen all the time. In the meantime, they have created some bad blood with the people they didn't invite who have found out. What a mess.

My philosopy is this: get as many people as you can. If ten people say they're going to come, most likely five will show up. This can be really depressing and financially draining. You're biggest problem right at the outset is getting people there. Invite everyone, even people from other classes. Try to get twelve people to confirm they'll be there in advance.

After a few weeks (six to eight), a lot of people will have fallen away, but because you've kept inviting people you'll also gotten some fresh blood from other classes. It's usually around this point a core group emerges: five to seven people who are committed to the group, who come almost every week, maybe go out for drinks together, like each other. At that point you may want to consider closing it off, but we'll get into that later.

5. Alright, i got a number of people to say they'll come. Now what?

There are three things you'll need for a practice group: People to improvise with, a place to improvise, and someone there to coach/teach/guide you. The latter two usually cost some money, which so long as you are in a practice goup will be an issue.


6. How much should we expect to pay? How should we handle the money?

Most rehearsal spaces charge about $15 an hour, but there are a number of others that charge more. Most coaches charge around $45-50 for a three hour session, but there are those who charge more or less. For a two hour session, usually its between $30 - $40. More on coaches later.

Someone's going to have to be in charge of getting it together, someone is going to be responsible for booking the space and coach and making sure they get paid. This job sucks.

Your expenses for your first practice come to $95 for the night. Ten people promised to come but only five showed up. People expected to pay $9.50, but instead only five showed so now everyone owes $19.00. Whoa! You have to tell them that, and they are not happy, doubt your abilities as a leader and are wary of coming next week. It's going to happen.

There are some ways around this. One way is try and collect the money upfront a few days before the practice. This way even if people don't show you're not screwed, and with their money on the line they've got a little more motivation to show. Make it clear that if they pay and don't show they don't get a refund.
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7. Where do we practice?

Short answer: some place you can be loud and stomp around.

Sometimes there's a person who has access to a spacious apartment or office. Monkeydick rehearsed for almost a year at Will Hines office in Midtown without any problems. The upside is that its free, which takes the financial strain on people (generally improvisers are broke or near broke). If someone has access to a space thats free go ahead and use it, but make sure that you can be loud, stomp around, and there is ample room and at least three chairs (two for scenes, one for the coach).

More often though the people in your group will not have the cache at their workplace to swing using the office off hours and their apartments will either be too small for even them to inhabit pleasantly or (even worse) will be in Brooklyn, Astoria, and other parts unknown.

Lucky for you, there are rehearsal spaces.

I don't know what rehearsal spaces did before UCBT opened up. Whenever i go to coach or practice it seems there are usually one or two other UCBT related groups there working their longform muscles.

Here are the phone numbers and addresses of some of the spaces i've practiced/coached at, in order of how much i like them.


Players 212-254-8138, 115 MacDougal St, Louis Salmone 353-9283
Atlantic 212-691-5919, 453 W. 16th St. b/w 9th and 10th ave
Cap 21 212-807-0202
Dick Shea's 212-229-1631, 69 West 14th St
Musical Theatre Works 212-677-0040, x302 440 Lafayette St.
Creative Acting Company, (212) 352-2103, W. 26th Street, 6th floor
Champions: 300 W.43rd St.307-7707
Producers Club: 315-4743, 300 W.43rd St.
Stella Adler - 689-0087, 31 W.27th St.(just west of Bway)

This list is by no means comprehensive, and how much i like a rehearsal space is directly related to how close it is to my apartment. Most of them are around $15 an hour. You can probably find more spaces by looking in Backstage or the Yellow Pages.
 
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8. How do we find a coach? Who should coach us?

There are a plethora of people willing to take your money in exchange for showing up at your practice group to coach. They range from the sublime to the useless. There are a lot of improvisers coaching, so the upside is there are a lot of people to choose from to see who works for you, and generally no matter when you schedule your practice you can get someone. But remember, not all coaches are created equal.

There are a number of ways to find a coach.

The easiest way is to go to www.improvisation.ws and click on the Find a Coach forum. Coaches will post here to publicize themselves and their availability. They may list shows they've been in or other groups they coached. Don't trust this. Being in a show or number of shows doesn't mean you can teach people improv. A lot people will list that they coached a group, but that doesn't mean the group liked them or that they even coached that group more than once. There is also a rating system, but again, i don't buy into that. However, this is the easiest way to get the names of coaches whom you can contact to find out more about.

If you're in a class you can ask your teacher who they would reccomend. Some teachers actively try to keep up with who coaches and who is good at it, based on talking to their students and going to see outside shows such as Flipside and LIMP. The problem with this system is that most of your teachers haven't been coached by the people their reccomending or rejecting. I don't think you can have an idea about how a coach is unless they've actually coached you. Their opinions may be based on personal bias and you should ask your teacher if they've ever been coached by this person and what they're basing their opinion on. Most often they'll reccomend their teammates or friends.

The best way is to talk to other students and ask them what coaches they have had and liked - what the coaches worked on, how effective they were, the general experience they provided. Also ask how long they worked with that coach - someone who worked with a coach for six months will have a different perspective than someone who had the coach once. Also, look at the student who is giving you the feedback - are they a player who you consider skilled and having made progress? Approach the students a few levels ahead of you who you respect and get their opinion. Go see the outside shows like LIMP and Flipside. Most of those groups will have a dedicated coach and have had experience with a number of coaches. Talk to them.

Some final notes on coaches: sometimes the best performers aren't always the best coaches, and vice versa. Being good doesn't mean you can teach being good. Conversely, some of the best teachers aren't people who are great performers. One of the best coaches around, Armando Diaz, has said he never thought he was a great performer and doesn't really perform at all.

Also, don't let experience fool you. Just because someone has been around a long time doesn't mean they are a good teacher. While i think that experience coaching is the best way to get better at it, a lack of experience doesn't mean a lack of thought about improv and what it takes to teach it.

9. How much should i expect to pay for a coach?

see question 6. But...

In my opinion, if someone is just getting started out coaching they may not be worth the fifty dollars. An inexperienced coach who's just figuring it out might not want to charge as much as one who is in demand every night of the week. Contact your coach before the practice and ask them how much they charge. They might swing you a deal or even do it for free just for the experience.

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more to come. comments, questions, suggestions can be e-mailed or pm'd to me.
 
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