LA vs NYC

[noahkey]

hold up a sec

Yeah, but our acting careers are part and parcel of what we (who are on this board) are trying to do with our lives. It would make sense that as improvisers we would talk about acting and the fact that we move here because this is where the industry is. That it's "Not all about our acting careers" looks pretty harsh in black and white, dude. That makes us sound kind of shallow, bro. Cut us some slack. And besides.....

This ain't the EarthFirstresourcecenter.com

And I don't remember any of us in this discussion saying that we hate how dirty it is here or that we're throwing flaming trash out of our car windows so why the sudden hostility? Because I moved here doesn't mean I trash it, verbally or physically.

I say, if you're a native Californian/Angelo be proud that you have a city everyone wants to move to. Believe me, no one is beating down the door of High Point, North Carolina.

And it's a major city. Don't like this many people? Move to Barstow. That's in California, right?

At least offer some solutions as to how we can be better conservationists or hell, as a native, give me the inside scoop on what the real deal is and how not to be such a newbie.

Jeez, all Capt. Dope said was about his own personal experience being in a new town now for a year and that he LIKED it in LA. That's all. Not that he knew the secret to Los Angeles or anything. Christ, the Capt. has been all over the world. Check his website.

Just chill bro. And certainly don't jump in at the end of a thread and start flaming a bunch of people you don't know. Cool?

BOC out.

 

[noahkey]

Okay, just to see since I live and improvise in LA, I checked your other postings TrueBlue to see if I knew you.

This issue of all of us newcomers destroying your pristine state that you grew up in as if you own it seems to be a recurring theme.

So, I don't want to start any trouble. I'm just (very softly and mildly; no aggression) suggesting to "back off the bit" a little, man.

We're all good people here. Let us know what we can do to help.

BOC out.

 

[El Jefe]

If you're going to talk about LA, why don't you talk about helping to take care of CA against the massive influx of people and all the damage it does (and obviously has done) to its beauty.

Um, because that's a different topic? If this was a "I love/hate California" thread, and everyone was just talking about LA, you would have a point.

Hey, Colton...why didn't you mention world hunger? That's an important topic.

Sarcasm inside, I am not a fan of car culture, and how it uglifies the landscape. I think the US, California and especially Los Angeles are examples of how adapting our infrastructure to an overabundance of automobiles can dehumanize a culture. But that's me being a cranky selective Luddite.

 

[Dave McKeel]

Does anyone take public transportation in LA?

Or is it basically a joke?

 

[TrueBlue]

Just chill bro. And certainly don't jump in at the end of a thread and start flaming a bunch of people you don't know. Cool?

BOC out.

Yo man, It's all good. I'm definitely not "flaming" anybody, and definitely have nothing against Capt. Dope, in fact he was open to this discussion last time so if anything he's all good on this point.

Look, you don't need to spaz out on me just because it's an issue. Nobody else even thinks about it, and it's something to be aware of. And that last quote about CA was exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. CA has some of if not the strictest environmental laws of any state in the country, and yet its public image is one of pollution, etc.

I'm just bringing it up to raise the consciousness and saying get involved in keeping it clean (there are a million ways to do this) and help keep it clean and respect.

All respect here too, don't make me out to be "flaming" somebody or being a dick.

I'm looking at it from your side, you look at it from mine, and please don't assume you know where I'm coming from or that I'm being a jerk, I really don't care about catty shit, I'm just trying to give the discussion a little breadth. But if you just want to talk about acting and ignore the rest of the issues of your surroundings, go ahead, I won't bother you, and nothing about my post here is meant to be personal. (P.S. Please don't start quoting my posts and trying to show they are, I don't want to get off the point, in fact, I'll just leave you guys alone since you seem intent on just taking me down personally)...

So... are you okay now? Capt Dope... love ya! All love...

 

[Hawkins]

Does anyone take public transportation in LA?

Or is it basically a joke?

it all depends on where you are and where you want to go.

I've used transit in some form or another since I've moved here. My first four were without a car, and it's pretty much a pain in the ass to get anywhere by bus.

Rail is okay for my work, as I go from the valley to downtown, and can stop off at IO on the way home. Problem is trains stop running around midnight

getting from Santa Monica and the surrounding area to hollywood: fairly easy, as busses run all night up and down sunset and santa monica

overall though, I'd say, have a car, and prepare to pay for parking, or have 3-4 hours a day to spare for travel

sorry to interrupt the catfight

 

[Gwyn]

Yeah, there is public transport, but, for ME, it doesn't really go where I need it to. At least not in a timely manner.
But I spend a lot of my time on the westside, between work and all. Like from Hollywood west. No subways go there, it's pretty much only buses(it's a district and/or city problem. For instance, Santa Monica won't allow trains in). The problem with buses in a city like this is that it's so spread out that if it's between your bus and your car, might as well drive, it'll be hours faster.
But I have taken it. If it's one bus, no transfers, and I have the time, and I'm not coming back very late....
That kinda thing.
I recently had jury duty downtown, and it was SO incredibly easy to walk up to the Hollywood/Highland stop, and get off a block and a half away from the courthouse...! I actually felt like I was in a real city!
There is talk of a line that will go west but end at Robertson and Venice. Which is progress I guess. It'd be nice if it went ALL the way to the ocean, but the closer you get to the water, the more resistance there is with that idea.
I won't join the comparison, because I didn't live in NYC, and my views are already well documented on the IRC(I even had a journal here when I first moved out).
However I will interject that TrueBlue and I have clashed before, so I'm staying out of that stew.

 

[ChrisGrace]

Don't diss High Point! People beat down the doors twice a year when they want to see the latest developments in armoire and ottoman innovation.

Can the people from LA describe how the city "gets to you"? I'm curious because I think most people know how New York can get to you, whether you live here or not (noise, traffic, angry people, small apartments, drive to pay the rent).

 

[Z-Tab]

Moving to LA gets a lot of dome-time with me, so I appreciate this thread.

 

[Hawkins]

Can the people from LA describe how the city "gets to you"? I'm curious because I think most people know how New York can get to you, whether you live here or not (noise, traffic, angry people, small apartments, drive to pay the rent).

aside from the other big city stuff (crimes, gangs, a lot of folks who don't speak English) the major difference between LA and New York is that there are other businesses other than "the biz" and you can have friends who work in other fields.

Here, not so much.

It's very odd because it almost seems like nobody works, but everyone has money, which is odd for a 9-5 office worker like me. You go out and you ask people how they're doing and the answer is almost always related to how they're doing in the industry. "Well I had an audition" "Well I don't have any auditions" "I haven't gotten a callback in 6 months" which is all fine and good, but doesn't answer my question really.

Then a lot of people have no idea what they're doing here and lose focus, which makes them wrecks to deal with. A lot of people "working on things" and really just kind of looking for a "home"

A lot of people here would throw their mother under a bus to get industry to see them. If you can handle that gunfighter mentality, you'll be okay.

But that's just my experience, your mileage may vary.

 

[Gwyn]

Yeah, I think what gets to you here, or to ME, is more a mental thing. Like I get tired of the scene. I need to get away to where real people are with real concerns and lives and jobs not at all related to the "industry".
Needing to go to a "normal" place and regroup. Get perspective. That's more it, I think.

PS-when I first got here, I kinda liked the fact that I didn't have to explain to everyone I talked to what I did. It was refreshing to meet a completely new person who got what you were talking about right away.

 

[SuperDaize]

I despise Los Angeles, but I live here.

If people can have a good time here, then I am happy for them. I don't want to burn it down, its just not for me, but it is where my life is right now.

I hate driving, im a walker. I have gained 10 lbs since moving here because of that fact alone. I hate strip malls, I hate regular malls. I have just never been a chain kind of person, but I also freaked out when I went to a kmart for the first time.

I am a New Yorker born and raised so for me NY will always be better.
Notice that I said FOR ME. But I also spent every morning that I was walking to the subway thinking 2 things. One was that I hate mornings and the other was that I love my city. And I do, through and through.

I miss museums and bagels and all of it, and while art exists out here, cars take the unpredictability out of my daily routine (no randon meeting up and walking for coffee and going to MOMA, more planned activities here) but I am just a city girl.
I like meeting people that do all kinds of different stuff, and I like the unspoken rules of personal space that exist in NY.

And I only get serious "road rage" when I am behind a shopping cart in an LA grocery store. I just also hate suburbs, hate em, it is like pulling teeth to get me to visit my extended family, but thats me.

I have found some wonderful people here. I have a cool job. I get to do comedy. I find my joy in things here, but not in the place itself.

But thats me, its not an argument, Its a statement.

Im used to the "Sex and the City"/"When Harry Met Sally" lifestyle aka Walking, talking, eating.

And thats how I like it.

 

[noahkey]

Don't diss High Point! People beat down the doors twice a year when they want to see the latest developments in armoire and ottoman innovation.

Oh, I never dis High Point. I was born and raised there. I love it. Just making the comparison.

Actually, There are a lot of people that have moved their from Conneticut, for some reason.

Chris, are you from HP?

BOC out.

 

[ChrisGrace]

Chris, are you from HP?

No, I went to college in Winston. I just remember my friends who were waiters would go to Furniture Market and make a bundle.

 

[noahkey]

right on

Excellent! I went to the North Carolina School of the Arts (class of '98) and lived there until 2000 when I moved out here.

Are you an NCSA guy or a Wake Forest man?

BOC out.

 

[Gwyn]

Yup, yup and yup.
WAY too planned.
Cannot stand driving and moreover HAVING to. But I chalk that up to learning late.

I despise Los Angeles, but I live here.

If people can have a good time here, then I am happy for them. I don't want to burn it down, its just not for me, but it is where my life is right now.

I hate driving, im a walker. I have gained 10 lbs since moving here because of that fact alone. I hate strip malls, I hate regular malls. I have just never been a chain kind of person, but I also freaked out when I went to a kmart for the first time.

I am a New Yorker born and raised so for me NY will always be better.
Notice that I said FOR ME. But I also spent every morning that I was walking to the subway thinking 2 things. One was that I hate mornings and the other was that I love my city. And I do, through and through.

I miss museums and bagels and all of it, and while art exists out here, cars take the unpredictability out of my daily routine (no randon meeting up and walking for coffee and going to MOMA, more planned activities here) but I am just a city girl.
I like meeting people that do all kinds of different stuff, and I like the unspoken rules of personal space that exist in NY.

And I only get serious "road rage" when I am behind a shopping cart in an LA grocery store. I just also hate suburbs, hate em, it is like pulling teeth to get me to visit my extended family, but thats me.

I have found some wonderful people here. I have a cool job. I get to do comedy. I find my joy in things here, but not in the place itself.

But thats me, its not an argument, Its a statement.

Im used to the "Sex and the City"/"When Harry Met Sally" lifestyle aka Walking, talking, eating.

And thats how I like it.

 

[Capt.Dope]

So... are you okay now? Capt Dope... love ya! All love...

no worries true blue. it's all love. Let's all keep my new favorite city place clean.

 

[Capt.Dope]

Does anyone take public transportation in LA?

Or is it basically a joke?

when held up to NYCs transportation it's a joke. on it's own it's ok for a city where most peps drive

 

[Capt.Dope]

I am a New Yorker born and raised so for me NY will always be better.
Notice that I said FOR ME. But I also spent every morning that I was walking to the subway thinking 2 things. One was that I hate mornings and the other was that I love my city. And I do, through and through.

I noticed what you said. exactly what I started this thread to hear.
I was a just a transplant to NYC. My connection is much weaker than yours.

I grew up in Minnesota. Started driving illegally when I was 13 and legally when I was 16. I kicked it at the Mall, ate Arbys, Toco Bell and Fuddruckers. And art well...we would go to the Museum to skateboard.

LA reminds me of a lot of that stuff. It always feels like summer vacation to me out here. A summer vacation where I think seriously about how...the citizens of Los Angeles suffer from the worst air pollution in the United States. Pollution reaches unhealthful levels on roughly half the days each year, causing irritation for many and illness for some.

I also think how A 1991 study found that those living in areas where particulate pollution exceeded government standards for 42 days per year or more had a 33 percent greater risk of contracting bronchitis and a 74 percent greater risk of contracting asthma.

I think about that, pack a bowl and get dope.

just joshing true blue

 

[TrueBlue]

...the citizens of Los Angeles suffer from the worst air pollution in the United States...

I think about that, pack a bowl and get dope.

just joshing true blue

Thanks Capt Dope, I will try to keep my nose out of things since it seems to upset other people a bit too much...

But just for the record, LA's air pollution is of course very bad, but much much improved from 20-30 years ago (I actually think places like Houston have worse air now, but don't quote me on it) -- because of the very strict CA regulations of which I was speaking before, and for which it often gets not close to enough credit.

That's why some of the other off the cuff "diss" comments about CA by some others who have just got here or not even been here get me a bit riled up sometimes, it's a lack of consciousness of some things... and it can get annoying to sit idly by and listen to your home town get trashed.

Anyway, hope I didn't upset anybody too much by posting that, and I'll try to keep out of it. :up: