Del Close: Scientologist?

[Matt Himes]

Well... not exactly.

But in keeping with his "use everything" philosophy, he DID take an interest in some of Scientology's teaching and how it could apply to the art form he developed.

So, I am starting a practice/study group for improvisers curious about how the core "tech" of Scientology can help them access higher-level long-form improv skills. Specifically dealing with the reactive mind, overcoming engrams, etc.

The course will be free, and the NYC Org has promised us space (fingers crossed). Also, there is a strong possibility (depending on the level of interest) that the Celebrity Center could hook us up with some IO/Second City/-trained guest-teachers.

This is NOT an official Scientology course. However, successful completion will qualify you for special rates on course materials/tuition if you wish to continue.

Looking to have the initial orientation/personality-testing session sometime in early May... with bi-weekly classes to follow. Hit me up via PM or this thread if interested.

 

[Sry An]

I Am So Angry That Scientology Is Involved In Improv And How Dare You Say That About Del Close This Is A Travesty I Will Spend The Rest Of The Day Furious.

 

[icouldbewrong]

April Fools???

 

[MikeStill]

It is my understanding that the biofeedback tech used in e-meters and auditing in general has a lot of applicability to Del Close's improv. Whether or nor engrams are "true" (although most research points that they are), LRH's research on how thetan engrams create conflict seems very applicable to long-form.

As we all know, most of us find our everyday conflict as we deal with the engrams of attached Body Thetans. Maybe powerful improv can be created through being more aware of our engrams on stage, creating virtual thetans, virtual conflict?

 

[bozarth]

Del Close was also a junkie.

 

[TargemQ8]

Del Close raped his cat.

(with his fingers.)

 

[ChrisCamp]

Is this course worth while if I'm already operating on OT XII? I frequently move objects with my mind during improvisation.

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard

(in all seriousness people - be careful what you say on message boards to Scientologists. There have been many cases of law suits against people using strong language against Scientologists on these kind of forums even when the intention was not to threaten)

 

[Fred Garvin]

Well... not exactly.

But in keeping with his "use everything" philosophy, he DID take an interest in some of Scientology's teaching and how it could apply to the art form he developed.

So, I am starting a practice/study group for improvisers curious about how the core "tech" of Scientology can help them access higher-level long-form improv skills. Specifically dealing with the reactive mind, overcoming engrams, etc.

The course will be free, and the NYC Org has promised us space (fingers crossed). Also, there is a strong possibility (depending on the level of interest) that the Celebrity Center could hook us up with some IO/Second City/-trained guest-teachers.

This is NOT an official Scientology course. However, successful completion will qualify you for special rates on course materials/tuition if you wish to continue.

Looking to have the initial orientation/personality-testing session sometime in early May... with bi-weekly classes to follow. Hit me up via PM or this thread if interested.

good one - had me going. just believable enough to be plausible.

 

[MikeStill]

(in all seriousness people - be careful what you say on message boards to Scientologists. There have been many cases of law suits against people using strong language against Scientologists on these kind of forums even when the intention was not to threaten)

Thank you, Chris.

In all seriousness, we all dismiss this religion as a joke, but that's plain bigotry. Take a listen to this song called "The Joy of Creating" by Issac Hayes and tell me its not about improvisation: http://engram.muxtape.com/

 

[Fred Garvin]

Thank you, Chris.

In all seriousness, we all dismiss this religion as a joke, but that's plain bigotry. Take a listen to this song called "The Joy of Creating" by Issac Hayes and tell me its not about improvisation: http://engram.muxtape.com/

i disagree that dismissing scientology is bigotry.

if one researches scientology in a balanced way, as I have extensively done, and concludes it was essentially invented and is maintained to make money, while severely mistreating its adherents, how is that bigotry?

 

[MikeStill]

i disagree that dismissing scientology is bigotry.

if one researches scientology in a balanced way, as I have extensively done, and concludes it was essentially invented and is maintained to make money, while severely mistreating its adherents, how is that bigotry?

Scientology is not about "making money," it is about empowering a human to achieve. The Church doesn't mistreat its adherents anymore than a lion "mistreats" its cubs, or the wind "mistreats" the air.

All group persecution starts with "research" and then a "decision" that the group must be purged.

Anyway, a being causes his own feelings, I'm "happy" right now. I just uploaded one of Doug E. Fresh's songs on the joy of creating: engram.muxtape.com.

 

[Hal Phillips]

Scientology = Nazis

Scientology = worse than Hitler and 9/11 combined

 

[Eugenegue]

Scientology = Nazis

This seems like a logical fallacy. I believe "If Scientologist -> Nazi" is more apt.

And don't even get me started on the implicit problem in the logical conclusion that "Nazis = worse than Hitler and 9/11 combined".

 

[Hal Phillips]

Eugenegue = Nazis

 

[Eugenegue]

That's it Hal! 3 o'clock, by the slide, me versus you.

 

[Anna.]

Didn't Close and Hubbard make a bet on who could create a more successful religion? I've always thought that it was a great story.

 

[noeld]

Didn't Close and Hubbard make a bet on who could create a more successful religion? I've always thought that it was a great story.

The way I heard it was that Del knew L Ron before the whole scientology thing started and suggested that his sci fi books had the makings of a religion.

 

[Hal Phillips]

Del Close = Nazi Scientologist

 

[MikeStill]

http://www.believermag.com/issues/200709/?read=article_spitznagel

 

[goldfish boy]

The way I heard it was that Del knew L Ron before the whole scientology thing started and suggested that his sci fi books had the makings of a religion.

Del Close and John W. Campbell, Jr. independently claimed to have given Hubbard the idea to create a religion, but through my extensive research I discovered that he thought of the idea himself while listening to Chick Corea records from the future.