Chicago is not that windy.

#1
A lot of people say to me, "Dan, how could you live all those years in Chicago when it's so windy?".

I guess people think Chicago is windy because it is called "The Windy City".

However, Chicago is a city of average windiness. Here's just a handful of the many, many cities that are windier than Chicago (listed in order of windiness):

BOSTON, MA
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK
NEW YORK, NY
BUFFALO, NY
MILWAUKEE, WI
HONOLULU, HI
DES MOINES, IA
KANSAS CITY, KS
DALLAS, TX
SAN FRANCISCO, CA
CLEVELAND, OH
NORFOLK, VA
MINNEAPOLIS, MN
PROVIDENCE, RI

Data are from the National Weather Service. I hope you have found this informative.
 
#3
MJC,

Sorry to be unclear, Chicago's not in the top 14. Those are just major cities. Here's the equal to or greater than list (I've removed cities outside the continental US).

Code:
City		Average Wind Speed	% Windier than Chicago
DODGE CITY, KS		13.9		35%
AMARILLO, TX		13.5		31%
ROCHESTER, MN		12.9		25%
CHEYENNE, WY		12.9		25%
CASPER, WY		12.7		23%
GOODLAND, KS		12.5		21%
GREAT FALLS, MT		12.5		21%
BOSTON, MA		12.4		20%
LUBBOCK, TX		12.4		20%
WICHITA, KS		12.2		18%
CLAYTON, NM		12.2		18%
NEW YORK, NY		12.2		18%
FARGO, ND		12.2		18%
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK	12.2		18%
CORPUS CHRISTI, TX	12		17%
CONCORDIA, KS		11.9		16%
ABILENE, TX		11.9		16%
GRAND ISLAND, NE	11.8		15%
BUFFALO, NY		11.8		15%
SEXTON SUMMIT, OR	11.7		14%
WICHITA FALLS, TX	11.6		13%
HURON, SD		11.5		12%
MILWAUKEE, WI		11.5		12%
BRIDGEPORT, CT		11.4		11%
BROWNSVILLE, TX		11.3		10%
BILLINGS, MT		11.2		9%
NORFOLK, NE		11.2		9%
RAPID CITY, SD		11.2		9%
MIDLAND-ODESSA, TX	11.1		8%
WACO, TX		11.1		8%
SIOUX CITY, IA		11		7%
DULUTH, MN		11		7%
ERIE, PA.	        11		7%
ABERDEEN, SD		11		7%
SIOUX FALLS, SD		11		7%
GALVESTON, TX		11		7%
KEY WEST, FL		10.9		6%
SPRINGFIELD, IL		10.9		6%
CAPE HATTERAS, NC	10.9		6%
DES MOINES, IA		10.7		4%
GLASGOW, MT		10.7		4%
DALLAS, TX	        10.7		4%
SAN FRANCISCO, CA	10.6		3%
MUSKEGON, MI		10.6		3%
KANSAS CITY, MO		10.6		3%
WATERLOO, IA		10.5		2%
MINNEAPOLIS-ST.PAUL, MN	10.5		2%
OMAHA, NE	        10.5		2%
SCOTTSBLUFF, NE		10.5		2%
CLEVELAND, OH		10.5		2%
NORFOLK, VA		10.5		2%
SPRINGFIELD, MO		10.4		1%
PROVIDENCE, RI		10.4		1%
DETROIT, MI		10.3		0%
ELY, NV		        10.3		0%
GRAND FORKS, ND		10.3		0%
MANSFIELD, OH		10.3		0%
SAN ANGELO, TX		10.3		0%
CHICAGO,IL		10.3		0%
 

goldfish boy

Otium cum dignitate
#4
1. You're going by wind speed alone, not by number of windy days, any kind of discomfort index, or the like.

2. Do you have any idea how many cities and towns there are in the U.S.? Chicago's still looking pretty high on the list.
 
#5
goldfish boy said:
1. You're going by wind speed alone, not by number of windy days, any kind of discomfort index, or the like.
Correct. Looking at the average windspeed across every hour of every day of every year for about 50 years.

2. Do you have any idea how many cities and towns there are in the U.S.? Chicago's still looking pretty high on the list.
Good point. There are quite a few small towns in the US, and not all have weather stations recording average wind speed. If we look at cities in standard metropolitan statistical areas of 1,000,000 people or more, Chicago ranks 13-14th out of 40 (1990 census data), putting it at 33rd to 35th percentile in windiness.

Code:
CITY           WIND    SMSA POPLN
BOSTON, MA	12.4	5,455,403
NEW YORK, NY	12.2	19,549,649
BUFFALO, NY	11.8	1,189,340
MILWAUKEE, WI	11.5	1,607,183
HOUST-GALV, TX	11	3,731,029
DALLAS-FW, TX	10.7	4,037,282
SAN FRAN, CA	10.6	6,249,881
KANSAS CITY, MO	10.6	1,582,874
CLEVELAND, OH	10.5	2,859,644
MNNPLS-SP, MN	10.5	2,538,776
NORFOLK, VA	10.5	1,444,710
PROVIDENCE, RI	10.4	1,134,350
DETROIT, MI	10.3	5,187,171
CHICAGO,IL	10.3	8,239,820
26 more cities <10.3    >1,000,000
 

Amidei

friend of god
#9
The Hawk is what they call the wind in the loop during the winter. As the wind comes off of the lake, at street level it meets the wall of Michigan Avenue and is forced between the giant buildings downtown. There picks up a considerable amount of speed, kind of like a funnelling effect, and by the time it gets to Clark or Lasalle, due to the flatness of the terrain, often knocks people over and ruins quite a few umbrella's.

Origins of The Windy City
 
#10
I remember standing once at the corner of Jackson and Wabash on my way to the art institute just leaning my whole body into the wall of wind as my portfolio and the arm attached to it whipped around in giant circles. I felt like I was there forever before I was able to move forward again.

It's very windy! Don't you remember waiting for the Jeffrey in subzero weather? :)
 
#11
That's a great article! I'm posting it here.



Naming the Windy City
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For many years, I have believed that Chicago received its nickname The Windy City as a consequence of its bidding war for the 1893 World's Fair. However, recently Barry Popik, a word-sleuth and consultant to the Oxford English Dictionary, has made me aware that the name had been applied at least a decade earlier in many newspapers and may have originated from weather considerations.

Popik claims the title was self-bestowed as Chicago attempted to promote itself as a summer tourist destination, in reference to its refreshing lake breezes that provided relief from the hot summer weather (more on this below). He has also provided references to show that the moniker was used in newspapers as early as the 1880s. Popik claims the World's Fair origin is an urban legend, created in part by the Chicago Tribune.

Before I look at the nickname's possible origins prior to the World's Fair bid, let me give you the story that I previously believed to be true.

During the 1889-1890 bidding for the World's Fair of 1893, Chicago advocates put on a rather long-winded presentation and campaign to win approval. The choice narrowed down to Chicago, New York, Washington and St Louis, and the competition before Congress among these cities was fierce and at times ugly. (The world's fair of 1993, known as the Columbian Exposition, was intended to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's landing in America, but was actually held in 1893, a year later than had been planned.)

During the campaign, The New York Sun editor Charles Dana wrote in reference to Chicago's lobbying tactics: "Don't pay attention to the nonsensical claims of that windy city. Its people could not build a world's fair even if they won it." This editorial has been widely credited with popularizing the Windy City nickname.

My source for the above information is Chicago Days, complied by the Chicago Tribune staff with additional backup from the Chicago Historical Society website.

While Dana did call the city windy in that piece, he was, it now appears, by no means the first. Thanks to the detective work of Popik, we have evidence of earlier newspaper references to Chicago being called the Windy City prior to The New York Sun editorial. Although Dana's editorial may not have created the nickname, perhaps it gave The Windy City renewed energy.

According to the Chicago Public Library website, Chicago's popular nickname is due to the "loud and windy boosterism" of Chicago promoters, but actually originated more than a half century earlier than the Fair bid. In the early part of the Nineteenth Century, Chicago promoters travelled the length of the East Coast loudly promoting Chicago as an excellent place to invest. Their Eastern detractors claimed they were full of wind, referring to the "Bag of Wind" coming from the Chicago promoters.

There are several sources that indicate Chicago was called the Windy City much earlier than 1890. David Wilton's Word Origins cites Mathew's Dictionary of Americanisms, published over 50 years ago, with an 1887 quotation of Windy City in reference to Chicago.

Barry Popik has discovered a linking of the city and nickname in a headline on the front page of the Cleveland Gazette for 19 September 1885, reporting on several news items from Chicago under the headline: "From the Windy City." For the nickname to be well known in Cleveland indicates that by 1885 it was a well-established title for Chicago and familiar to most readers.

Popik had previously found this 11 September 1886 reference in the Chicago Tribune that may indeed point the nickname toward Chicago's weather, though not in the way we now understand the term.

"The name of 'Windy City', which is sometimes used by village papers in New York and Michigan to designate Chicago, is intended as a tribute to the refreshing lake breezes of the great summer resort of the West, but is an awkward and rather ill-chosen expression and is doubtless misunderstood."
Chicago was once known as Garden City -- its Latin city motto was and is Urbs in Horto, "city in a garden" -- which was perhaps an attempt to rid itself of the known fact the city was built on a former, rather odorous swamp. The shift from the old nickname to the new appears to have taken place in the middle 1880s.

Popik also found a citation in the Louisville Courier-Journal in early January 1886 which connects the wind off Lake Michigan and Chicago. And he found a rhyme in PUCK (a then-popular New York City humour magazine) written about 1871 that included the words "windy old town of Chicago." He adds 1885 and 1886 references in the baseball magazine Sporting Life to Chicago as the "City of Winds" and the "Windy City."

There still remains a degree of confusion on the meteorologically based use of the term Windy City because its original connotation is somewhat at odds with current thinking. Our negativity-based social conscience subconsciously links the word wind and its various forms with unpleasant thoughts. Wind conjures thoughts of windchill, wind warnings including hurricane and tornado, storminess and damage. To us today, the nickname "Windy" would be a derogatory one. But if we place ourselves back into the Nineteenth Century, and even early Twentieth Century, "windy" can take a quite positive spin.

The writings of Hippocrates connected weather and health, and in several passages he extols the virtues of wind on good health, and condemns windless sites as sources of disease. Jumping ahead a couple millennia, in the urban landscape of the Industrial Revolution, cities were well known for their rather malodorous air, the result of industrial activity, coal and wood burning for heat and power, animal stockyards, and road traffic fuelled by horse and ox power. I have read that the advent of the automobile helped solve a rather difficult and disgusting urban problem: dead and rotting horses lying in the streets of many large cities, not to mention their "tail" emissions.

Steady winds would blow all that odour away, provide natural summer air-conditioning and even lessen mosquito and other insect pests. If the wind came off a pristine, clean source area such as Lake Michigan, all the better. Today, wind is a nuisance to most; yesterday, it was a valuable natural resource. No wonder Chicago revelled in the nickname: The Windy City rather than trying to downplay it.

So there is an accounting of the earliest references to Chicago as a "Windy City." I am now well convinced that the nickname originated well before Charles Dana used it in his editorial. However, I am still unsure as to weather, oops, whether it originally emphasized Chicago's entrepreneurial spirit or its distinctive weather conditions, perhaps it was both together. Perhaps, this essay will help fuel some lively cracker barrel or rain barrel debates across the Chicago region, bringing back the memories of Irv Kupcinet pioneering talk shows to older Chicagoans.

My thanks to Barry Popik for expanding my horizons. Having been born in Chicago, I had hoped that there was a meteorological connection from the city to the Weather Doctor beyond those incredible thunderstorms.
 

Stacy

that's me!
#12
I never knew

Wow! Who woulda thought? I gave tours in Chicago too and I always used that World's Fair fact. I think that the Popik explanation would be just a little "long winded" for the simple minded tourists though.

Oh well, I still have my favorite joke...

"Did you kow that the Chicago River is not actually considered polluted? Yeah, according to waste management, it's Toxic!"

chaching-that would bring in the dollars everytime.
 

Gwyn

Old School
#13
I grew up "knowing" the term referred to the "bags of wind" politicians.
And while I may have been technically wrong, I never did think it referred to actual wind.

Amidei, it's funny, I've heard you bring up this "hawk" thing before, and in my whole lifetime of living/working/growing up there, yours is the first reference to it I've ever seen.
I think this must be a relatively new term/idea. I'll ask my Aunt. She's one of those older women who watches the weather religiously every night, if anyone knows what the deal is with this "HAWK" thing, it will be her.
 
#14
chicago has wind, but not that much...

i used to skate down Clarendon Ave and there was one apartment building where the wind was in my face no matter which direction i skated, north or south.
i now live in Wichita, KS. much windier and hotter here and a miserable city to try and skate in. not just the weather -- sidewalks are a bitch and the skating in traffic is just not done.
 

proofred

Son of a Beach
#15
The old joke was that the White Sox sucked and the Cubs blew.

Actually though, the wind isn't so bad around town. It's downtown where it gets tough. Is there a statistical comparison of windspeed just in the downtown area?

Todd Rice
ProofRed
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The wind blew me all the way to Florida.
 

Gwyn

Old School
#16
I used to find anywhere near the lake was pretty windy. Downtown, or north at Belmont and Sheridan. Waiting for the bus there in the winter was a bitch.
 

Amidei

friend of god
#17
Gwyn said:
Amidei, it's funny, I've heard you bring up this "hawk" thing before, and in my whole lifetime of living/working/growing up there, yours is the first reference to it I've ever seen.
I think this must be a relatively new term/idea
Well, I guess that would depend on what you consider new.

Here is a reference to it from 1983 that I find particularly timely.


A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request
by Steve Goodman (1983)

A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request
By the shore's of old Lake Michigan
Where the "hawk wind" blows so cold
An old Cub fan lay dying
In his midnight hour that tolled
Round his bed, his friends had all gathered
They knew his time was short
And on his head they put this bright blue cap
From his all-time favorite sport
He told them, "its late and its getting dark in here"
And I know its time to go
But before I leave the line-up
Boys, there's just one thing I'd like to know

Do they still play the blues in Chicago
When baseball season rolls around
When the snow melts away,
Do the Cubbies still play
In their ivy covered burial ground
When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
But now they only bring fatigue
To the home of the brave
The land of the free
And the doormat of the National League

Told his friends "You know the law of averages says:
Anything will happen that can."
That's what it says.
"But the last time the Cubs won a National League pennant
Was the year we dropped the bomb on Japan"
The Cubs made me a criminal
Sent me down a wayward path
They stole my youth from me
(that's the truth)
I'd forsake my teacher's
To go sit in the bleachers
In flagrant truancy

and then one thing led to another
and soon I'd discovered alcohol, gambling, dope
football, hockey, lacrosse, tennis
But what do you expect,
When you raise up a young boys hopes
And then just crush 'em like so many paper beer cups.

Year after year after year
after year, after year, after year, after year, after year
'Til those hopes are just so much popcorn
for the pigeons beneath the 'EL' tracks to eat
He said "You know I'll never see Wrigley Field, anymore
before my eternal rest
So if you have your pencils and your score cards ready,
and I'll read you my last request
He said, "Give me a double header funeral in Wrigley Field
On some sunny weekend day (no lights)
Have the organ play the National Anthem
and then a little "na, na, na, na, hey hey, hey, Goodbye"
Make six bullpen pitchers, carry my coffin
and six ground keepers clear my path
Have the umpires bark me out at every base
In all their holy wrath
Its a beautiful day for a funeral, Hey Ernie lets play two!
Somebody go get Jack Brickhouse to come back,
and conduct just one more interview
Have the Cubbies run right out into the middle of the field,
Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly
Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt
And I'll be ready to die

Build a big fire on home plate out of your Louisville Sluggers baseball bats,
And toss my coffin in
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow
From the prevailing 30 mile an hour south west wind
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall
Will bid the bleacher bums adieu
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue

The dying man's friends told him to cut it out
They said stop it that's an awful shame
He whispered, "Don't Cry, we'll meet by and by near the Heavenly Hall of Fame
He said, "I've got season's tickets to watch the Angels now,
So its just what I'm going to do
He said, "but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs,
So its me that feels sorry for you!

And he said, "Ahh Play, play that lonesome losers tune,
That's the one I like the best
And he closed his eyes, and slipped away
What we got is the Dying Cub Fan's Last Request
And here it is

Do they still play the blues in Chicago
When baseball season rolls around
When the snow melts away,
Do the Cubbies still play
In their ivy covered burial ground
When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
But now they only bring fatigue
To the home of the brave
The land of the free
And the doormat of the National League
 
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