at what age did you start improvising

mikelibrarian

Lost in the stacks.
#21
now that i'm not drunk i have a serious question...ok so out of my small group of friends i have the most experience in improv, so my friends always want to get together and practice and such at my brothers house, and they expect me to be some kind of improv guru and teach them the tricks of the trade. the problem is im not even close to experienced enough to teach, and honestly i dont think i'm even good at improvising. so we just end up drinking and messing around usually...i feel like im letting them down. does anyone know a good block of games or exercises 3-5 ppl can do, that would get them in the groove of long form. that's our "goal" is to form a group. also we would all just take a class together but we are broke.

Nobody on this board is a bigger advocate of going to a library and taking out books, but to really benefit you need to get yourself a teacher, unless all you want to do is get drunk and screw around in your brother's house. Not that I'm knocking screwing around. 20 is the ideal age to be doing that and you'll find it was good practice for when you start taking actual classes. My friends from when I was 20 don't see that much of a difference between my improv at age 40 and my screwing around at age 20 and wonder why they ought to travel into manhattan and buy a ticket.

That being said, it is highly unlikely that anyone not in your group would be interested in watching you guys screw around.

Having a teacher or coach will help you guys focus if only because you're spending money for the person's time and you don't want to waste it. If you guys are in or near a reasonably large city sign up for classes at your local improv theater. If you guys go to college, look into the college's improv club or ask the drama department if they have an improv type class. If you guys do not go to college, contact the drama department of the nearest community college. They may offer a night class, especially if a bunch of people offere to pay for one out of the blue.

You should not be made to act as a den mother for your peers. If you feel that you are not yet skilled enough to be an adequate teacher, don't let your friends guilt you into being one. One thing I've learned in my years of serving the public is taht people try to make reality conform to their wishes. An extreme example is the guy who yelled at me when he didn't like the weather report I found for him. Relevant to you, your friends want free improv lessons from you, therefore you are a good teacher and it is your fault if you can't teach them. Don't fall into this trap.
 

Holmes

of the Rare Bird Show
#24
now that i'm not drunk i have a serious question...ok so out of my small group of friends i have the most experience in improv, so my friends always want to get together and practice and such at my brothers house, and they expect me to be some kind of improv guru and teach them the tricks of the trade. the problem is im not even close to experienced enough to teach, and honestly i dont think i'm even good at improvising. so we just end up drinking and messing around usually...i feel like im letting them down. does anyone know a good block of games or exercises 3-5 ppl can do, that would get them in the groove of long form. that's our "goal" is to form a group. also we would all just take a class together but we are broke.
Get someone to come and give you a longform workshop.

Where are you located?
 
#25
Short form in college at the age of 20. Long form after I'd moved to NYC after graduating. I was 23? Yeah 23. Several people thought I was younger, which I assume means I was annoying.

Or that I looked young.
 
#27
It's 2:30 PM here, so I'm not drunk. I started shortform at 21, and we started doing horribly misguided longform shortly afterwards, although I'm not sure we've stopped being horribly misguided yet.



Tis probably deserves it's own thread.

Try borrowing some books from the library. Truth in Comedy is a good one to start with.
i just borrowed truth in comedy and mick napier's book from my brother today..i just started in on truth in comedy..seems pretty informative so far.
 
#28
Nobody on this board is a bigger advocate of going to a library and taking out books, but to really benefit you need to get yourself a teacher, unless all you want to do is get drunk and screw around in your brother's house. Not that I'm knocking screwing around. 20 is the ideal age to be doing that and you'll find it was good practice for when you start taking actual classes. My friends from when I was 20 don't see that much of a difference between my improv at age 40 and my screwing around at age 20 and wonder why they ought to travel into manhattan and buy a ticket.

That being said, it is highly unlikely that anyone not in your group would be interested in watching you guys screw around.

Having a teacher or coach will help you guys focus if only because you're spending money for the person's time and you don't want to waste it. If you guys are in or near a reasonably large city sign up for classes at your local improv theater. If you guys go to college, look into the college's improv club or ask the drama department if they have an improv type class. If you guys do not go to college, contact the drama department of the nearest community college. They may offer a night class, especially if a bunch of people offere to pay for one out of the blue.

You should not be made to act as a den mother for your peers. If you feel that you are not yet skilled enough to be an adequate teacher, don't let your friends guilt you into being one. One thing I've learned in my years of serving the public is taht people try to make reality conform to their wishes. An extreme example is the guy who yelled at me when he didn't like the weather report I found for him. Relevant to you, your friends want free improv lessons from you, therefore you are a good teacher and it is your fault if you can't teach them. Don't fall into this trap.
how did i miss this comment looking at this thread earlier? i think im going to utilize facebook and social sites a lot more to look for a good coach or existing troupe i can join...if all fails i might just find a way to take classes at the only improv place in town (taken them there before and was not happy) but hey at least its stage time.
 
#29
Get someone to come and give you a longform workshop.

Where are you located?
michigan...detroit area...me and my brother have taken longform classes.but my brother doesnt seem so enthusiastic to do improv anymore. it seems like everyone is tired of the idea lately and now its only me and one other friend that want to go at it ...he doesnt have any real experience. some shortform stuff.
 

Holmes

of the Rare Bird Show
#31
michigan...detroit area...me and my brother have taken longform classes.but my brother doesnt seem so enthusiastic to do improv anymore. it seems like everyone is tired of the idea lately and now its only me and one other friend that want to go at it ...he doesnt have any real experience. some shortform stuff.
There's a good deal of improv in Detroit. Go take more classes until you feel comfortable enough to lead or see about getting someone to come give you a workshop in how to start your own group.
 

Mr. Stampede

www.jillbernard.com
#32
now that i'm not drunk i have a serious question...ok so out of my small group of friends i have the most experience in improv, so my friends always want to get together and practice and such at my brothers house, and they expect me to be some kind of improv guru and teach them the tricks of the trade. the problem is im not even close to experienced enough to teach, and honestly i dont think i'm even good at improvising. so we just end up drinking and messing around usually...i feel like im letting them down. does anyone know a good block of games or exercises 3-5 ppl can do, that would get them in the groove of long form. that's our "goal" is to form a group. also we would all just take a class together but we are broke.

Improvising Better by Liz Allen and Jimmy Carrane and also Group Improvisation by Peter Gwinn would be fun to work through.
 

Gwyn

Old School
#35
I started with Spolin improv exercises when I was in the Organic Theater's Youth Group at like, 14...? I brought one or two of those to my Play Production class warm ups in HS. One of those was Give-and-Take, which we started morphing into - what I now know was - a version of Montage. This became such a piece on it's own that we were asked to perform it for a couple new student Orientations. Around this time we went as a group to see SC Etc, and started doing Freeze to warm up. Then in College my first year Acting class was all Spolin. By the time I got to Columbia College, and Marty DeMaat, I knew all those exercises pretty well--which are the basis of most Games. Marty taught us "time dash", which is a solid start for learning Harold.
So I don't know if I can say I started with games or long form. Probably just easier to say I started with Spolin.

edit to add; given what I've just said, work through Viola Spolin's book(s)!! LOL!
 
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